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	<description>Overcoming depression in a stress filled world</description>
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		<title>By: zania</title>
		<link>http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-stress-of-making-a-list/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>zania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Brian,
maybe I have something in common with Albert Einstein after all!! ;)

I have tried out most of the geek stuff on the net at one time or another. (if you see my post on simpleology you will see me bemoaning the fact that the system has been ´geeked´ which prevented me from viewing it for a while).
Yes, I heard of that advice by Tim Ferries, but it´s the only one I haven´t looked at for some reason. The common sense approach.  I like that!

´Some of us can thrive in a listless system´
hmmm does that make us feel listless...? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brian,<br />
maybe I have something in common with Albert Einstein after all!! <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have tried out most of the geek stuff on the net at one time or another. (if you see my post on simpleology you will see me bemoaning the fact that the system has been ´geeked´ which prevented me from viewing it for a while).<br />
Yes, I heard of that advice by Tim Ferries, but it´s the only one I haven´t looked at for some reason. The common sense approach.  I like that!</p>
<p>´Some of us can thrive in a listless system´<br />
hmmm does that make us feel listless&#8230;? <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-stress-of-making-a-list/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh lists, lists, how I freaking love and hate lists!!!  I guess I draw the line at the fact that I only write/keep lists for these functions:
-To clean out short term memory.  My work requires me to think on my feet and make snap decisions frequently.  By keeping the old RAM clean, so to speak, I make better decisions with less stress.
-To organize my thoughts when I get "creative overload", often when I read a good book.
-Any other time where the time spent writing and maintaining the list is not greater then the time saved.

David Allen of "Getting things done" advocates keeping lots and lots of lists, but he also advocates spending the least amount of time writing and maintaining them (i.e. the sticky pad and crumbled piece of paper in your pocket system).  Several of his devotee's created a whole system called the "hipster pda" at DIYplanner.com.

When it comes to work based list keeping, Tim Ferriss of "4 hour work week" fame is similar to me in that he only thinks you should keep lists if it improves your productivity.  But he takes it a step further and asks us to look at the stuff on our lists and explore our motivation for wanting to do so much shit.  This has brought my the most success, the last several weeks I've started letting things go and caring a little less, and I feel great about it.  Being a detailed control-freak (only at work albeit), created undo stress for me.  My attitude was the bars of my prison.  When I realized that and removed myself as an obstacle, then I was able to escape from my personal prison.

One other note, don't let the myriad of geeky internet list-o-holics make you feel guilty for not being that way.  Some of us can thrive in a listless system.  If you've always been this way, then maybe that is just the kind of person you are.  Albert Einstein always kept a messy desk and hardly ever kept lists!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh lists, lists, how I freaking love and hate lists!!!  I guess I draw the line at the fact that I only write/keep lists for these functions:<br />
-To clean out short term memory.  My work requires me to think on my feet and make snap decisions frequently.  By keeping the old RAM clean, so to speak, I make better decisions with less stress.<br />
-To organize my thoughts when I get &#8220;creative overload&#8221;, often when I read a good book.<br />
-Any other time where the time spent writing and maintaining the list is not greater then the time saved.</p>
<p>David Allen of &#8220;Getting things done&#8221; advocates keeping lots and lots of lists, but he also advocates spending the least amount of time writing and maintaining them (i.e. the sticky pad and crumbled piece of paper in your pocket system).  Several of his devotee&#8217;s created a whole system called the &#8220;hipster pda&#8221; at DIYplanner.com.</p>
<p>When it comes to work based list keeping, Tim Ferriss of &#8220;4 hour work week&#8221; fame is similar to me in that he only thinks you should keep lists if it improves your productivity.  But he takes it a step further and asks us to look at the stuff on our lists and explore our motivation for wanting to do so much shit.  This has brought my the most success, the last several weeks I&#8217;ve started letting things go and caring a little less, and I feel great about it.  Being a detailed control-freak (only at work albeit), created undo stress for me.  My attitude was the bars of my prison.  When I realized that and removed myself as an obstacle, then I was able to escape from my personal prison.</p>
<p>One other note, don&#8217;t let the myriad of geeky internet list-o-holics make you feel guilty for not being that way.  Some of us can thrive in a listless system.  If you&#8217;ve always been this way, then maybe that is just the kind of person you are.  Albert Einstein always kept a messy desk and hardly ever kept lists!!</p>
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		<title>By: Does Simpleology Really Help You Organise Your Time? &#124; Fraying Edges &#124; Depression Help</title>
		<link>http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-stress-of-making-a-list/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Does Simpleology Really Help You Organise Your Time? &#124; Fraying Edges &#124; Depression Help</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote my post about The Stress Of Making A List, I was bemoaning the fact that I cannot even begin to get my life [...]</description>
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		<title>By: zania</title>
		<link>http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-stress-of-making-a-list/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>zania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That 'Stumble Effect' was a little bizarre :)
I've had thousands of hits before on a blog, but not so many and in such a short space of time.  I was getting quite worried about my hosting resources.  I've got plenty of bandwidth, but resources, that's a whole other thing...

The exhilaration of just sitting and watching those hits pour in is a kind of high (it was for me, anyway...), but then I began to think about the possible outcome...

Guess I just get stressed too darned easy! 

I had a few clicks to external pages and sites, but not that many, as is the way with Stumble visitors it seems... Although, thinking about it, quite a few stayed around for a while, which was nice :) So, nothing to get stressed out about really.

I'm working on that list by the way, but it's going kinda slow... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That &#8216;Stumble Effect&#8217; was a little bizarre <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;ve had thousands of hits before on a blog, but not so many and in such a short space of time.  I was getting quite worried about my hosting resources.  I&#8217;ve got plenty of bandwidth, but resources, that&#8217;s a whole other thing&#8230;</p>
<p>The exhilaration of just sitting and watching those hits pour in is a kind of high (it was for me, anyway&#8230;), but then I began to think about the possible outcome&#8230;</p>
<p>Guess I just get stressed too darned easy! </p>
<p>I had a few clicks to external pages and sites, but not that many, as is the way with Stumble visitors it seems&#8230; Although, thinking about it, quite a few stayed around for a while, which was nice <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> So, nothing to get stressed out about really.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working on that list by the way, but it&#8217;s going kinda slow&#8230; <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Andy Alt</title>
		<link>http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-stress-of-making-a-list/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Alt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;The more I think about this, the more I see stress &#62;caused by not actually making the darn list in the first &#62;place!
Didn't I warn you about this in my comment on that page? Too much stuff floating in the head makes Andy's brain a cuisinart.
With all those hits you mentioned, was that the "stumble" effect? I noticed your site and that page is listed on &lt;a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Stumbleupon.com&lt;/a&gt;. I got a few extra myself, around 200 on one page in under a few minutes, but no comments or clicks on external links. Seems like they stumbled by but I couldn't grab their attention. :) No worries though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;The more I think about this, the more I see stress &gt;caused by not actually making the darn list in the first &gt;place!<br />
Didn&#8217;t I warn you about this in my comment on that page? Too much stuff floating in the head makes Andy&#8217;s brain a cuisinart.<br />
With all those hits you mentioned, was that the &#8220;stumble&#8221; effect? I noticed your site and that page is listed on <a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/" rel="nofollow">Stumbleupon.com</a>. I got a few extra myself, around 200 on one page in under a few minutes, but no comments or clicks on external links. Seems like they stumbled by but I couldn&#8217;t grab their attention. <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> No worries though.</p>
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		<title>By: zania</title>
		<link>http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-stress-of-making-a-list/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>zania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jenny,
thanks for letting me know about your RSS feed.  It does make a difference when you can sign up for a blog's feed - to me anyhow, it acts as a reminder that the blog is there.
I'll be over later to check out the changes :)

Yes, sometimes it's hard writing about depression, especially when you suffer from it yourself, as I do.  It can get a little personal at times.  Most good bloggers talk from the heart to their readers, as you do, but sometimes with depression, you can feel you are stripping your thoughts naked for others' inspection.
But it helps me and I hope it helps others too.

You really love lists, don't you? :)
Actually, that's a good tip - about writing lists with easy things on - yes, I can see it would give you real satisfaction knowing you've completed all those task.
Nice one, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jenny,<br />
thanks for letting me know about your RSS feed.  It does make a difference when you can sign up for a blog&#8217;s feed - to me anyhow, it acts as a reminder that the blog is there.<br />
I&#8217;ll be over later to check out the changes <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, sometimes it&#8217;s hard writing about depression, especially when you suffer from it yourself, as I do.  It can get a little personal at times.  Most good bloggers talk from the heart to their readers, as you do, but sometimes with depression, you can feel you are stripping your thoughts naked for others&#8217; inspection.<br />
But it helps me and I hope it helps others too.</p>
<p>You really love lists, don&#8217;t you? <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Actually, that&#8217;s a good tip - about writing lists with easy things on - yes, I can see it would give you real satisfaction knowing you&#8217;ve completed all those task.<br />
Nice one, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: J Adamthwaite</title>
		<link>http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-stress-of-making-a-list/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>J Adamthwaite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! I thought I'd drop in and let you know that I have my RSS feed up and running now, and I've also changed the look of my blog (although not &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; much!)

I think you're doing a fantastic thing with this blog. Writing about depression can't be easy but there are so many people it helps.

As for lists, I'm a list cheater! I write lists that include lots of easy little things that I would remember with or without the list, just for the pleasure of crossing them off. I also add things after I've done them, again so I can cross them off. But there's nothing more satisfying than a long list entirely ticked off at the end of day! Sometimes I just sit and look at it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I thought I&#8217;d drop in and let you know that I have my RSS feed up and running now, and I&#8217;ve also changed the look of my blog (although not <i>that</i> much!)</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re doing a fantastic thing with this blog. Writing about depression can&#8217;t be easy but there are so many people it helps.</p>
<p>As for lists, I&#8217;m a list cheater! I write lists that include lots of easy little things that I would remember with or without the list, just for the pleasure of crossing them off. I also add things after I&#8217;ve done them, again so I can cross them off. But there&#8217;s nothing more satisfying than a long list entirely ticked off at the end of day! Sometimes I just sit and look at it!</p>
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		<title>By: zania</title>
		<link>http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-stress-of-making-a-list/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>zania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still reading... lol!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still reading&#8230; lol!</p>
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		<title>By: JK Swopes</title>
		<link>http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-stress-of-making-a-list/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>JK Swopes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand! Trust me...I think you'll like it...it's free! And it's been helping me out, I found it as I was on my "time management" journey!

Anyway....I probably do have your email...lol :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand! Trust me&#8230;I think you&#8217;ll like it&#8230;it&#8217;s free! And it&#8217;s been helping me out, I found it as I was on my &#8220;time management&#8221; journey!</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;.I probably do have your email&#8230;lol <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: zania</title>
		<link>http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-stress-of-making-a-list/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>zania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks JK (again, lol!)
Ok, I'll send you my email address (although it should be on your list already, I think...).

simpleology... ?  I'm googling it right now and I've found Mark Joyner.  Hmmm.....
I have to tell you that I take an awful lot of convincing.  Stay tuned on that one!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks JK (again, lol!)<br />
Ok, I&#8217;ll send you my email address (although it should be on your list already, I think&#8230;).</p>
<p>simpleology&#8230; ?  I&#8217;m googling it right now and I&#8217;ve found Mark Joyner.  Hmmm&#8230;..<br />
I have to tell you that I take an awful lot of convincing.  Stay tuned on that one!  <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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