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		<title>Depression Help Searches Are Not Private</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zania</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[a post from Fraying Edges &#124; Depression Help
Depression Help Searches Are Not Private
When Searching For Details About Depression Can Be A Problem.
As more and more people use the Internet, we have come to rely on searching for information online.
Sure, we may still go to the local library to look for a book which may help [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a post from <a href="http://frayingedges.com/">Fraying Edges | Depression Help</a></p>
<p><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2009/04/depression-help-searches-are-not-private/">Depression Help Searches Are Not Private</a></p>
<p><strong>When Searching For Details About Depression Can Be A Problem.</strong></p>
<p>As more and more people use the Internet, we have come to rely on searching for information online.</p>
<p>Sure, we may still go to the local library to look for a book which may help us, or watch particular programs on TV.  But many of us are so used to the Internet, it is now our first port of call when we want to find something out.</p>
<p>Depression sufferers search for terms like <a title="Types Of Depression" href="http://frayingedges.com/types-of-depression/">Types of Depression</a>.  Those who have a relative suffering from a slimming disease, may search for <a title="Long Term Effects Of Anorexia" href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-long-term-effects-of-anorexia/">the long term effects of Anorexia</a>, in the hope they can show the sufferer why they need to seek help.</p>
<p>People taking antidepressants may want to know more about the drug they have been prescribed and how effective it is.  In this case, they may search for an article about <a title="Did The Manufacturers Of Prozac Get It Wrong" href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/did-the-manufactureres-of-prozac-get-it-wrong/">Prozac</a>, or another depression drug.</p>
<p>Most of you reading <strong><a title="Depression Help And discussion" href="http://frayingedges.com/">Fraying Edges</a></strong> will have arrived here because you searched for a term similar to those mentioned above.</p>
<p><strong>I would also guess that the majority of you would rather not have your search records kept for others to find.</strong></p>
<p>Depression is still misunderstood in many communities and many people are still scared to admit they suffer from it, in case of the stigma this could bring.</p>
<p>Some people who are depressed wish to keep the details from their family and friends as long as possible, and particularly their work colleagues.</p>
<p><strong>The last thing they want is for the search they made about depression being stored on their PC browser for future use.</strong></p>
<p>But this is exactly what Google is doing now.  They are storing records of your personal searches.  Ostensibly, &#8216;to make your searching more effective&#8217;.  But it is really about money - being able to provide you with &#8216;better adsense adverts&#8217;, so you will be enticed into purchasing something and thus make Google&#8217;s Adwords system more profitable.</p>
<p>There is also the fact that Google would like to control the Internet.</p>
<p>And no, that is not me being parnoid.  Just think about how valuable Google is becoming to certain people, with the records they are able to keep from those of us who utilise all their &#8216;useful applications&#8217;.</p>
<p>Their Google Street View, their Google World&#8230;</p>
<p>If you want to read about how <a title="Google Is Spying On You" href="http://soxsblog.com/google-is-spying-on-you/" target="_blank"><strong>Google Is Spying On You</strong></a>, click that link.  You may know some of the ways your searching is tracked, and it may not bother you right now.  But after reading the examples given of how your online privacy can be affected, it could well make you think again.</p>
<p>That is, if you don&#8217;t mind them tracking you as you click through to the site (it is in part an adult blog, by the way, but nothing explicit).</p>
<p>But when you stop to think about how you search online and how you want your personal searches kept prvate, especially if they involve a subject like depression, then it will make you wonder whether you actually want to use Google as your search engine of choice.</p>
<p>You do not have to be suffering from depression (or paranoid) to feel that your rapidly diminishing privacy is being further eroded by the giant that is Google.  But thinking that your searches on the subject of depression are being monitored, could make you feel even more depressed!</p>

	<h4>Related posts</h4>
	<ul class="st-related-posts">
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/08/how-to-cope-when-your-loved-one-is-depressed/" title="How To Cope When Your Loved One Is Depressed (August 13, 2008)">How To Cope When Your Loved One Is Depressed</a> (7)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/05/ways-to-exercise-away-that-depression/" title="Ways to Exercise Away That Depression (May 19, 2008)">Ways to Exercise Away That Depression</a> (0)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/the-bare-and-honest-truth-about-depression/" title="The Bare And Honest Truth About Depression (October 14, 2008)">The Bare And Honest Truth About Depression</a> (4)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/recession-depression-and-suicide/" title="Recession Depression And Suicide (October 1, 2008)">Recession Depression And Suicide</a> (10)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/06/new-page-on-depression-and-families/" title="New Page on Depression and Families (June 11, 2008)">New Page on Depression and Families</a> (0)</li>
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		<title>Why Depression Can Make People Disappear Online</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zania</dc:creator>
		
		<category><![CDATA[Different Types of Depression]]></category>

		<category><![CDATA[Facing Up To Depression]]></category>

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Why Depression Can Make People Disappear Online
Being Depressed And Failing To Communicate.
This post concerns one of my personal experiences of having communication problems when I was depressed.  But before I begin, I need to say to regular readers, this is not an excuse for not posting here [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a post from <a href="http://frayingedges.com/">Fraying Edges | Depression Help</a></p>
<p><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2009/03/why-depression-can-make-people-disappear-online/">Why Depression Can Make People Disappear Online</a></p>
<p><strong>Being Depressed And Failing To Communicate.</strong></p>
<p>This post concerns one of my personal experiences of having communication problems when I was depressed.  But before I begin, I need to say to regular readers, this is <em>not</em> an excuse for not posting here to <strong><a title="Fraying Edges Depression Help And Discussion" href="http://frayingedges.com/">Fraying Edges</a></strong> for a while (that&#8217;s simply down to pressure of work and hosting difficulties - which I still have to deal with&#8230;if only I can find the time <em>and someone with the technical know how</em>).</p>
<p>This post was actually prompted by something I read yesterday on a business forum!</p>
<p>The originating poster was asking why another forum member had returned online, as if they had never been away for the last two years.  Several people responded, also complaining about the person in question.  They expressed their annoyance that this person had disappeared without completing work they had said they would undertake.</p>
<p>However, when it came down to it, no one was accusing them of cheating.  Everyone agreed that the work paid for had been carried out, very satisfactorily.  It was just that they wanted more and the person had said they could deliver&#8230;</p>
<p>As it happened, today the &#8216;accused&#8217; has answered those posts today, saying they were ill and unable to get online (no further details).  They asked for their apologies to be accepted.  Resulting answers were mixed&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>This forum misunderstanding, brought back memories for me from a few years ago. </strong></p>
<p>Around 2002-3, I used to run a Yahoo group.  It was in the days when Paint Shop Pro was all the rage for bored housewives.  They liked to join groups online and share their &#8216;creations&#8217; and tips with others.  I joined quite a few groups.  My graphic skills aren&#8217;t particularly great, but in those days I began to think they could be.</p>
<p>It was while I was making my &#8216;online creations&#8217; that I came upon the issue of copyright.  It appeared that most group members were making their PSP images from pictures grabbed from anywhere on the net.  They claimed &#8216;free usage&#8217; and thought this was ok.  I knew it wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>So I emailed all the artists whose work I wished to use and asked for their permission and conditions for use.</p>
<p>Amazingly, around 80% of these artists responded and of those, nearly 90% said I could use and transform their images, as long as I provided a link back to them as supplied.  A small number even said I could use their work commercially, with conditions.  Overall, this was a very successful (if time consuming) move.</p>
<p>So I set up my own Yahoo group.  I posted the pictures, headers, email templates, etc., I had made, and constructed a database of &#8216;friendly&#8217; artists people could use - as long as they contacted the artist first and followed their conditions for use.</p>
<p>This was a very time consuming task.  Luckily, I was not going out to work at the time (I had a small toddler to care for and another baby whose arrival was imminent).  And the task was an interesting one, to which I gave a great deal of time.</p>
<p>In a couple of months, the group grew to several hundred members (goodness knows why - I didn&#8217;t have a clue about getting traffic in those days).  Some members added their own artist research to our database, but most just wanted to post their pictures, share our artist list, and wait patiently for further updates.</p>
<p>Then I gave birth to my second child.  And it soon became clear (more to others at first) that I was suffering from post natal depression.</p>
<p>The Yahoo group was the last thing I wanted to deal with right then.  Just getting through the day and caring for my children took all my mental strength.</p>
<p>My group members had sent me &#8216;new baby congrats&#8217; posts by the hundreds.  And at first they understood why I was not posting that often.  But, as the weeks went by and my posts slithered away to nothing, annoyance and confusion began to take over the group.</p>
<p><strong>It appeared I had abandoned them.</strong></p>
<p>Weeks went by and became months.  Group emails went unread, group projects remained untouched.  Check ups on the artist database were not done.  I simply could not bring myself to deal with any of it.  It all seemed, not only a pointless waste of time, but <em>it mentally hurt</em> even to log in there.</p>
<p><strong>Depression can make you feel this way</strong>.  <em>Things you enjoyed doing before, now seem so uninteresting and completely pointless, you feel real pain, when contemplating them.</em></p>
<p>I finally forced myself to email a couple of senior group members and told them I would not, and could not, post there any more.  I told them by all means take over the group, and gave them the details to do so.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t go into long explanations as to why I was &#8216;abandoning them&#8217;.  I doubted they would understand and I couldn&#8217;t be bothered to tell them anyway.</p>
<p>Then I logged off from the group, cancelled my email account with them, and never went back there again&#8230;</p>
<p>Until yesterday, after I found that forum post.</p>
<p>The group is still going strong (the membership has actually doubled) and people still post there regularly.  But no one has added to the artist database, or made any changes to it since I was last there.</p>
<p>Nowadays it seems group members just chat and post the occasional &#8216;pic I have made&#8217;.  Most of these appear to be in infringement of someone&#8217;s copyright.  Obviously they haven&#8217;t read the &#8216;group rules&#8217; and no one cares to point them out to them.</p>
<p>I could post and tell them this (I&#8217;m still, officially, a member).  But I won&#8217;t bother.  Even now, looking at that database, and remembering all the work involved in creating, it brings out a few &#8216;anxiety twinges&#8217;.</p>
<p>I just sighed and closed the browser.</p>
<p>And that is a rather long explanation of <em>my experience of being unable to communicate effectively when I am depressed, and why it seems to cause so much confusion for others</em>.</p>
<p>I guess, all I am saying here is, when <em>you</em> feel &#8216;abandoned&#8217; by someone (online of offline), who seemed to be friendly, communicative and extremely helpful, unless they have actually caused you or your business any harm (unfinished work, unpaid debts, etc), then please don&#8217;t go off on a &#8216;rant&#8217; as soon as they reappear.</p>
<p>It could just be that they had &#8216;issues&#8217; which made it very difficult for them to communicate and thus, give <em>you</em> the acknowledgement <em>you think</em> you deserve.</p>
<p>Being ill, including being depressed, can make a person very uncommunicative.  The feelings of &#8216;abandonment&#8217; <em>you</em> are experiencing, when they fail to reply to your approaches, <em>are down to you</em>, not to the person who is failing to talk right now.</p>

	<h4>Related posts</h4>
	<ul class="st-related-posts">
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/the-bare-and-honest-truth-about-depression/" title="The Bare And Honest Truth About Depression (October 14, 2008)">The Bare And Honest Truth About Depression</a> (4)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/recession-depression-and-suicide/" title="Recession Depression And Suicide (October 1, 2008)">Recession Depression And Suicide</a> (10)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/05/does-blogging-really-help-you-cope-with-depression/" title="Does Blogging Really Help You Cope With Depression? (May 24, 2008)">Does Blogging Really Help You Cope With Depression?</a> (11)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/a-different-view-of-depression/" title="A Different View Of Depression (October 4, 2008)">A Different View Of Depression</a> (12)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/06/why-personal-development-does-not-help-us-overcome-depression/" title="Why Personal Development Does Not Help Us Overcome Depression (June 13, 2008)">Why Personal Development Does Not Help Us Overcome Depression</a> (4)</li>
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		<title>Best Self-Help Book Review Ever</title>
		<link>http://frayingedges.com/2009/01/best-self-help-book-review-ever/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zania</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[a post from Fraying Edges &#124; Depression Help
Best Self-Help Book Review Ever
I haven&#8217;t been able to post here for a while owing to hosting difficulties, but I just have to check in and post a special link here today.
It&#8217;s a Review Of The Secret.
And for those who have read my thoughts on self-help, you will [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a post from <a href="http://frayingedges.com/">Fraying Edges | Depression Help</a></p>
<p><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2009/01/best-self-help-book-review-ever/">Best Self-Help Book Review Ever</a></p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t been able to post here for a while owing to hosting difficulties, but I just have to check in and post a special link here today.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a <a title="Ari Brouillette Review Of the Secret" href="http://www.amazon.com/review/R2X2TB3S4O5I60?ie=UTF8&amp;ASIN=1582701709&amp;nodeID=283155&amp;ref_=cm_cr_dp_cmt" target="_blank"><strong>Review Of The Secret</strong></a>.</p>
<p>And for those who have read my thoughts on self-help, you will understand why I find this particular review so useful <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>

	<h4>Related posts</h4>
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	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/08/does-forgiveness-always-help-us-cope-with-depression/" title="Does Forgiveness Always Help Us Cope With Depression? (August 9, 2008)">Does Forgiveness Always Help Us Cope With Depression?</a> (2)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/05/can-happier-help-your-depression/" title="Can Happier Help Your Depression? (May 22, 2008)">Can Happier Help Your Depression?</a> (0)</li>
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		<title>Depression Should Never Be A Topic For Spam</title>
		<link>http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/depression-should-never-be-a-topic-for-spam/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zania</dc:creator>
		
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Depression Should Never Be A Topic For Spam
The Parasites Who Make Money Out Of Depression Sufferers
As Fraying Edges Depression Help grows, I get more and more spam comments.  Nothing strange about that, all bloggers get them.  I just have a very quick scan through to see [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a post from <a href="http://frayingedges.com/">Fraying Edges | Depression Help</a></p>
<p><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/depression-should-never-be-a-topic-for-spam/">Depression Should Never Be A Topic For Spam</a></p>
<p><strong>The Parasites Who Make Money Out Of Depression Sufferers</strong></p>
<p>As <strong><a title="Fraying Edges | Trying To Help Find Out More About Depression" href="http://frayingedges.com/">Fraying Edges Depression Help</a></strong> grows, I get more and more spam comments.  Nothing strange about that, all bloggers get them.  I just have a very quick scan through to see that no one has been &#8216;Akismeted&#8217; by mistake and then press the delete button.</p>
<p>But what <em>really</em> gets to me are those who set up <strong>spam blogs about Depression</strong> and then scrape the feeds from the serious depression blogs (you find out about this when you check your &#8217;spam pingbacks&#8217;).  These (usually) partial feeds are then posted on the spam blog, which is (if the spammer has done his or her homework) very well optimised to receive adsense clicks.</p>
<p><strong>The spam depression blog&#8217;s <em>only</em> interest is in making money from your suffering.</strong>  Nothing more, nothing less.  If you tried to post a comment asking for advice, you would either be faced with comments turned off, or a request to &#8216;log in to comment&#8217; which, of course, would be denied.</p>
<p><strong>Spammers are trying to make money.  Nothing else.  They do not give a flying fig whether you are in the depths of despair or even suicidal.</strong>  They simply want you to click on their adsense adds and make them a few measly bucks.</p>
<p>Why do I know this?  For several reasons.  The first being that whenever I receive a &#8217;spam pingback&#8217; from one of these blogs, I go and check it out&#8230;and it will always be filled with the same old crap.  They will also nearly always be made with Wordpress themes I recognise as being produced purely for internet marketing.  I know because I use them myself.</p>
<p>Following on from that, the second reason I know about this is that I too am an internet marketer.  I know just how to &#8217;scrape&#8217; a feed if I wanted to.  I know about optimisation, backlinks, article marketing, content &#8217;spinning&#8217;, and loads of other &#8216;tricks of the trade&#8217;.  Do I use them?  Sometimes (but I will not scrape anyone&#8217;s feed - I honestly think it&#8217;s wrong to take someone else&#8217;s thoughts without at least without making a damn good reference to them first), and I do not spam.</p>
<p>And I would <em>never</em> produce a &#8216;made for adsense&#8217; blog on Depression. The subject is much too serious to be treated this way. It actually upsets me to think that there are so many people on the internet who really do not care about anything other than taking advantage of people&#8217;s suffering and trying to make money out of it.</p>
<p>You see, the concept behind this type of marketing is to &#8216;fill a need&#8217;.  It&#8217;s as old as the hills and I use it myself when writing some of my marketing blogs.  But there are some needs which can be filled without turning oneself into a predator.</p>
<p>Would I make a mfa blog on the very &#8216;profitable&#8217; subject of weight loss, even though I suffer from (latent) Anorexia?  Yes, and I have some out there, and they are highly optimised for adsense.  But they are filled with my personal thoughts on the subject and stressing that slimming is ok in moderation, but how to do it without endangering your health. I actually think I can give some valuable input on that.</p>
<p>Do I make blogs about the &#8216;high on the agenda&#8217; subject of how to get out of debt?  Yes, I have a couple.  But they are not filled with scraped articles, as the majority are; they are researched before I post and, again, they try to be helpful.</p>
<p>Then there is stuff which comes under the pseudonym of  &#8216;mens&#8217; health&#8217; and fits very well on my adult blogs (which of course also fill a need even though some may think otherwise&#8230;).  Is it harming anyone to read these articles?  No, I don&#8217;t think so (although some of the &#8216;contraptions&#8217; for &#8216;men&#8217;s health&#8217; I would rather not think about&#8230;).</p>
<p>Basically, when it comes to marketing (on the internet or in &#8216;real life&#8217;), I think there are some &#8216;needs&#8217; which can justifiably be approached and others which the uninformed person just trying to make a buck should steer clear of.  And Depression and all mental illnesses fall into this latter category.</p>
<p>I even wonder whether the (very few) adverts I have on this blog are really worth having there?  The book reviews are ok.  I read them before advertising them, and the adverts for the &#8216;zen&#8217; things are useful rather than harmful, but that &#8216;panic away&#8217; button at the bottom of the blog I do wonder about&#8230;.  The CD is okay though&#8230;.</p>
<p>As for putting adsense on this blog.  I did try it for a while, but as it was not even secondary to what this blog was about, it simply didn&#8217;t fit, and the adverts which appeared I felt woukl have been more distressing to the depression sufferer than helpful.  So I took them off.  Others manage this and still produce a helpful blog, but they are very careful how they treat the whole concept.  It is <em>not</em> these depression bloggers I am talking about here - just the &#8216;mfa parasites&#8217; and they know exactly who they are. </p>
<p>But anyway, I just needed to get that off my chest. Those thoughts have been lingering away in the background for some time and just had to be expressed <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And after that rant, I am wondering whether this article will be scraped for one of those &#8216;mfa depression blogs&#8217;?  If it is, I hope the spammer actually reads it.  But that is unlikely because he or she will have their &#8217;scraper&#8217; set on automatic and will never find out that I think they are close to being the scum of the earth&#8230;</p>

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	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/06/why-personal-development-does-not-help-us-overcome-depression/" title="Why Personal Development Does Not Help Us Overcome Depression (June 13, 2008)">Why Personal Development Does Not Help Us Overcome Depression</a> (4)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/06/why-i-call-this-depression-help-blog-fraying-edges/" title="Why I call this Depression Help blog Fraying Edges (June 12, 2008)">Why I call this Depression Help blog Fraying Edges</a> (4)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2009/03/why-depression-can-make-people-disappear-online/" title="Why Depression Can Make People Disappear Online (March 15, 2009)">Why Depression Can Make People Disappear Online</a> (0)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/08/when-defining-your-life-goals-hits-a-set-back/" title="When Defining Your Life Goals Hits A Set Back (August 3, 2008)">When Defining Your Life Goals Hits A Set Back</a> (15)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/05/welcome-to-fraying-edges-depression-help/" title="Welcome to Fraying Edges - Depression Help (May 17, 2008)">Welcome to Fraying Edges - Depression Help</a> (0)</li>
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The Bare And Honest Truth About Depression
What Many &#8216;Experts&#8217; On Depression Fail To Tell You
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<p><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/the-bare-and-honest-truth-about-depression/">The Bare And Honest Truth About Depression</a></p>
<p><strong>What Many &#8216;Experts&#8217; On Depression Fail To Tell You</strong></p>
<p>When I began this <strong><a title="Fraying Edges | Depression Help" href="http://frayingedges.com/">Blog About Depression</a></strong>, I set it up for two reasons: to find out more information about different forms and depression and post about them here; and to help myself at the same time, with an outlet for my personal thoughts and to possibly harness some research findings in a way which would benefit me and others who had a similar form of depression to my own.</p>
<p>But the more I research, and the more readers have been commenting here and adding their personal thoughts and experiences, it appears to me that <strong>There Is No Complete Answer To Depression</strong>.</p>
<p>You can look for &#8216;depression help&#8217; all over the internet; you can read reams and reams of books and articles on the subject.  A great deal of the information you will find on (for example) blogs and sites set up purely to make money, will be either regurgitated text from other sites, or full of &#8216;pap&#8217; which will not help you in the slightest.</p>
<p>On the other hand, there are many very good websites, blogs, books and articles on the subject of depression which will do their best to provide you with details about various forms of depresson and treatments for it.  Some will go as far as providing details of the latest research, which will (sometimes) be even more useful.</p>
<p>(By the way, <strong><a title="Fraying Edges | Depression Help" href="http://frayingedges.com/">Fraying Edges</a></strong>, to my way of thinking, doesn&#8217;t really fall into either of these two categories.  It is simply a personal depression blog with my own thoughts and findings, but I do try to keep it clear of any &#8216;just written to make money&#8217; posts [hell, if I made a dollar a month from this site it would be a miracle <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ].  I prefer to post here when I have something to say, rather than just because I feel I have to, and the blogs I link to in the sidebar are also, to my mind, of a similar design).</p>
<p>But getting back to the subject of this post - <strong>The Truth About Depression</strong> - I am yet to find <em>anywhere</em> something which will answer all of our many different questions and cries for help.</p>
<p>Because <strong>every single case of depression and other forms of mental illness relate entirely to the sufferer</strong>: to their genetics; their particular body build and chemistry; their environment (family, social, economic, political, geographical&#8230;); their eating/drinking/living/sleeping habits; their gender; their sexuality; other illnesses they may be suffering from; their reactions to medication; and so on&#8230; And even more so, in many cases, to their personal life history.  We are all individuals.</p>
<p>For example, I am female, still relatively young.  I am a mother and family provider, under constant pressure to earn enough to help us survive.  My family has a genetic history of depression, but not that strong (and so, to be honest, do many families) and my first &#8217;bout of depression&#8217; (which was not termed as such then) was as a child, when I suddenly found myself unable to communicate with others without bursting into tears.  My second &#8217;bout&#8217; was as a teenager with Anorexia, and the latter and ongoing one was after giving birth to my first child.</p>
<p>I guess from reading that, you would say I am an &#8216;ideal candidate&#8217; for ongoing depression.  But am I?  Many women go through life without suffering from depression, despite having a family history of depression, &#8217;slimming struggles&#8217;, giving birth, and being under constant stress from their &#8216;working mother&#8217; role.</p>
<p>At the other extreme is a good friend of mine back in the UK.  He is a successful graphic artist. He is physically healthy, has no money worries, a nice home, happy family, no pressure to produce more work (he has enough &#8216;in the vault&#8217; to last him for years and because of its unique nature, it will still look &#8216;fresh&#8217; in years to come) and he loves his work anyway.  He has no family history of mental illness and is not taking any &#8216;illegal substances&#8217; or drinking to excess.  And yet he is just going through a period of major depression and it isn&#8217;t his first.</p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t fit the &#8216;criteria&#8217; for depression in any way, shape or form, and various doctors and psychiatrists have affirmed this.  And that actually makes it harder for him to cope with his illness (being able to find &#8216;reasons&#8217; can be very comforting&#8230;).  It also makes it harder for the medics to find anything to prescribe for him which actually works.</p>
<p>It could be, of course, that he fits the criteria discussed in my previous post on <a title="A (Possibly) Positive Look At Depression" href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/a-different-view-of-depression/">A Different View Of Depression</a>, in that he is creative and gifted, and thus <em>perhaps</em> more likely to be a &#8216;candidate for depression&#8217;, but that doesn&#8217;t really help him deal with his illness.</p>
<p>And when I read comments here and on other depression sites, from people suffering from depression, they are all relating different experiences, and the <em>only</em> thing they really have in common is this horrible illness (and even then, it manifests itself in many different forms).</p>
<p>But most of us will be &#8216;diagnosed&#8217; according to a very similar set of &#8216;boxes&#8217; which the physician will tick off one by one, and thus apply the &#8216;correct&#8217; medication and/or other kinds of treatment accordingly.  It&#8217;s no surprise that, in many instances, it takes months, years (or never) to help the sufferer recover completely from their particular form of depression.</p>
<p>Because people do not live according to those &#8216;little tick boxes&#8217;.  We are all individuals, with our own set of &#8216;reasons for depression&#8217;, many of which we fail to understand ourselves.</p>
<p>This is not a jibe at the medical profession (or even the pharmaceutical companies - not this post anyway&#8230;), it is just saying, that until researchers find a way of getting out of their labs and into the minds of their &#8216;research subjects&#8217; <em>and then reach out even further</em> and try (somehow&#8230;) to see depression as being related to a whole magnitude of different &#8216;events&#8217;, they will never get anywhere near to finding the answers they are supposed to be searching for.</p>
<p>And until that time, those of us who suffer from depression will just have to manage to get by trying out various methods of treatment and hoping that eventually, either we will find one which works, or the period of depression will pass under its own volition.</p>
<p>Because the one thing which does stand out from all the research, is that depression does abate.  It may never lift entirely and the sufferer may have further bouts of the illness over the years, but <a title="About Major Depression" href="http://frayingedges.com/types-of-depression/major-depression/">major depression</a> does usually follow a cycle and the sufferer will &#8216;come out at the other end&#8217;.</p>
<p>Scant help, I know, to anyone suffering from major depression (or who has a family member suffering from depression) right now, but it&#8217;s all I can say that I feel to be <strong>the truth about depression</strong>.  And I truly wish there were more&#8230;</p>

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	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/08/how-to-cope-when-your-loved-one-is-depressed/" title="How To Cope When Your Loved One Is Depressed (August 13, 2008)">How To Cope When Your Loved One Is Depressed</a> (7)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/08/depression-makes-it-hard-to-reach-out/" title="Depression Makes It Hard To Reach Out (August 8, 2008)">Depression Makes It Hard To Reach Out</a> (8)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/a-different-view-of-depression/" title="A Different View Of Depression (October 4, 2008)">A Different View Of Depression</a> (12)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2009/03/why-depression-can-make-people-disappear-online/" title="Why Depression Can Make People Disappear Online (March 15, 2009)">Why Depression Can Make People Disappear Online</a> (0)</li>
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A Different View Of Depression
Depression Can Produce Greatness
Yesterday I produced a rather melancholy post. Feeling thoroughly &#8216;down&#8217;, and in need of an outlet, I vented a little in here about the constant cycle of stress and depression I appeared to be putting myself through.
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<p><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/a-different-view-of-depression/">A Different View Of Depression</a></p>
<p><strong>Depression Can Produce Greatness</strong></p>
<p>Yesterday I produced a rather melancholy post. Feeling thoroughly &#8216;down&#8217;, and in need of an outlet, I vented a little in here about <a title="melancholy stress and depression post" href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/the-constant-cycle-of-stress-and-depression/">the constant cycle of stress and depression</a> I appeared to be putting myself through.</p>
<p>To tell the truth, I really do not feel much better yet. Nevertheless, as I seem to do some of my best research when I am depressed (on depression of course&#8230;), I have been busy, and it&#8217;s all down to a comment left by <strong>Andy Alt</strong>, who writes <a title="Mental Dimensions" href="http://mentaldimensions.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Mental Dimensions</a>. Andy is a regular commenter here and I owe him more than the scant attention to his own blog I have been giving at the moment (as I do all others I used to comment regularly to&#8230;), so I hope he understands.</p>
<p>Anyway, Andy recommended I read a book called <a title="Lincolns Melancholy Discussion With Author" href="http://www.lincolnsmelancholy.com/feat_back_1.html" target="_blank">Lincolns Melancholy</a>. I haven&#8217;t as yet (that is a link to a discussion of the book suggested by Andy), but I certainly intend to do so very soon (allowing for Spanish mail&#8230;). The main page to the website for <a title="Lincolns Melancholy" href="http://www.lincolnsmelancholy.com/index.html" target="_blank">Lincolns Melancholy</a> is here.</p>
<p>Now, contrary to what some US Citizens think, us non-Americans have heard of Abraham Lincoln <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> In fact, he is usually highly regarded as one of &#8216;the greats&#8217; of recent history. But as it happens, I had read a great deal about Lincoln, because my thesis for my first degree was on world anti-slavery movements, so naturally Lincoln played a part in that. I had also read of Lincoln&#8217;s depression, but only in passing, because that was not my main focus at the time.</p>
<p>But reading about the &#8216;melancholy&#8217; Abraham Lincoln suffered is astounding, in that it proposes <strong>a whole new way of thinking about Depression and related illnesses</strong>.</p>
<p>The author, <a title="Author Bio" href="http://www.lincolnsmelancholy.com/bio.html" target="_blank">Joshua Wolf Shenk</a>, has struggled with depression himself, so he is not just using the illness as a &#8216;useful topic for a book&#8217;.  Researching and writing took him several years of intensive study. And from his research he has produced an astounding theory: that it was in struggling with, facing up to, and learning to cope with his severe depression that Lincoln was not only able to achieve greatness, but to profoundly affect the course of American history.</p>
<p>According to Sherik, Lincoln&#8217;s melancholy gave him a “depressive realism” that he was able to utilise, in a way that gave him not only a deeper understanding of human frailties, but the means to working with them to convince people of the &#8216;rightness&#8217; of his anti-slavery proposals. <a title="Lincolns Melancholy Discussion with Author" href="http://www.lincolnsmelancholy.com/feat_back_1.html" target="_blank">And that</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;the depths of emotion that he explored as a result of his depression contributed to a deep creative capacity — as a writer and thinker.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Now to me, that is an extremely positive approach to depression.  This is <em>not</em> dismissing the dreadful affects of depression, but <em>is</em> suggesting that the modern day stigma still often attributed to depression is totally unfounded.  Those of us who suffer from depression, dysthymia, bipolar disorder, or any other forms of depressive illness, are not &#8216;rejects who need to sort themselves out&#8217;.  In fact, many of us are actually very gifted individuals who, despite our illness (or even sometimes because of it) can contribute greatly to society.</p>
<p>The review took me deeper into looking at the type of depression Lincoln may have suffered from.  The author suggests hypomania as a contributing factor.  <a title="Hypomania Wikepedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypomania" target="_blank">Hypomania</a> is a &#8216;mild&#8217; form of mania, it may be associated with Bipolar 11 Disorder, but is not considered as severe, in that people can still function in everyday life and their hypomania can actually help them achieve their aims and feel good.  Of course, the downside is a following on depression&#8230;sound familiar? <img src='http://frayingedges.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(And that took me even further, into looking at treatments for hypomania and possible drug interractions which also sound rather familiar, but I&#8217;ll leave that for another post)</p>
<p>What I discovered from reading about the book (ordered by the way) and looking into this whole hypothesis deeper myself, is that a lot of my suspicions are confirmed (if you agree with the book anyway):</p>
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<li>People who suffer from depression are often very gifted individuals, but it is not necessarily their gifts which lead to their depression, but the depressive personality which enforces their gifts.</li>
<li>Depression makes a person go deeper inside themselves and this can bring with it a greater intuition which can not only help them cope with life but also achieve great things.</li>
<li>Hypomania can have positive as well as negative affects, which needs to be taken into account when medically prescribing for this illness.</li>
<li>Telling someone to &#8216;think positive&#8217; in the &#8216;personal development&#8217; sense is not the best course of action for someone suffering from depression.  It conflicts with the “depressive realism” most of us appear to have.  That realism would be better put to good effect, rather than struggling to overcome it.</li>
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<p>I urge you to read this book.  If researching just the review gave me these thoughts, then I for one am really looking forward for the book itself to arrive.  It may not provide all the answers, but anything rather than the constant &#8217;sameness&#8217; of &#8216;depression help&#8217; offered today appears to me to be a definite plus factor.</p>
<p>And, if &#8216;thinking positive&#8217; <em>from a depressive point</em> <em>of view</em> sounds like a contradiction to you, let&#8217;s just say I think it is going to give me more scope to face up to my depression for what it is: an illness like any other and something to be dealt with, using all helpful means available, rather than stigmatized and fought against with little reward.</p>

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	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/the-bare-and-honest-truth-about-depression/" title="The Bare And Honest Truth About Depression (October 14, 2008)">The Bare And Honest Truth About Depression</a> (4)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2009/03/why-depression-can-make-people-disappear-online/" title="Why Depression Can Make People Disappear Online (March 15, 2009)">Why Depression Can Make People Disappear Online</a> (0)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/recession-depression-and-suicide/" title="Recession Depression And Suicide (October 1, 2008)">Recession Depression And Suicide</a> (10)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/08/how-to-cope-when-your-loved-one-is-depressed/" title="How To Cope When Your Loved One Is Depressed (August 13, 2008)">How To Cope When Your Loved One Is Depressed</a> (7)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/05/does-blogging-really-help-you-cope-with-depression/" title="Does Blogging Really Help You Cope With Depression? (May 24, 2008)">Does Blogging Really Help You Cope With Depression?</a> (11)</li>
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The Constant Cycle Of Stress And Depression
The Roller Coaster Ride Which Leads To Depression
A couple of days ago, a woman called Cyndi left a very long and eloquent comment on my post about how Blogging About Depression Can Be Lonely. Her post made me think quite a lot.
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<p><strong>The Roller Coaster Ride Which Leads To Depression</strong></p>
<p>A couple of days ago, a woman called <strong>Cyndi</strong> left a very long and eloquent comment on my post about how <a title="The Loneliness Of The Depression Blogger" href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-loneliness-of-the-depression-blogger/">Blogging About Depression Can Be Lonely</a>. Her post made me think quite a lot.</p>
<p>Over the last few weeks, my depression and anxiety have become worse.  I am constantly tired, but cannot sleep.  I cannot concentrate on anything for long and am totally on edge.  Caring for my children (and more importantly in this case, communicating with them in a &#8216;good way&#8217;) is a trial I carry out (I think&#8230;) reasonably effectively, but with feelings of complete exhaustion.  And as for my poor partner&#8230;  Well, he is trying his best to stay calm in the face of the storm he has weathered quite a few times before, but I can see he is getting thoroughly hacked off with having to do this.</p>
<p>Cyndi&#8217;s comment rang a bell with me on several issues, but the main one was her talk of the unrelenting Stress&gt;Depression&gt;Stress&gt;Depression cycle which she finds to be a constant factor of her life.  And that&#8217;s me summed up quite nicely.</p>
<p>I am either totally motivated and can work at the speed of light, whilst coping with all manner of stressful things in my daily life (and even &#8216;thriving&#8217; on them), or I am completely wiped out and depressed.</p>
<p>A couple of psychiatrists have put this down to being &#8216;bipolar&#8217;, but have then admitted that the medication given for this horrible illness is not effective in my case (just totally debilitating)&#8230; so they then suggested that perhaps I am not bipolar after all&#8230;?  A therapist once told me this was all due to the &#8216;roller coaster ride&#8217; I put myself on and once I recognised this and when it was occurring, I could deal with it and pull back.  Easier said than done&#8230;</p>
<p>You see, when it comes to living in the real World, with quite a few responsibilities, you cannot just get off the roller coaster when you are nearing the peak, because to do so would affect your family&#8217;s well being and (in my case) their finances.  When I am working well, this makes a profound difference to the money we have coming in.  It also shores up some resources to fall back on when I am not feeling quite so well&#8230;</p>
<p>It is one thing to recognise what you are doing to your state of mind, but quite another to take the action required to prevent this from happening.</p>
<p>Sure, I could say to myself &#8220;I feel good and totally full of ideas and the ability to carry them out, but I won&#8217;t do that now, I&#8217;ll just chill out instead.&#8221;  But I won&#8217;t, because to do that would be irresponsible.  And there is also the fact that &#8216;chilling out&#8217; (in the case of relaxation, meditation, &#8216;taking it easy&#8217; or whatever else it might be) actually makes me feel depressed!</p>
<p>You see, when you are so full of all that energy, to try to hold back on it is actually just as painful as the effects of using it all up to the bitter end and suffering the consequences.  Go figure!</p>
<p>And I guess this sounds kind of bipolar, but most of the psychs have assured me I am not.  Of course, most of us know that even the &#8216;experts&#8217; get it wrong.  Who knows?</p>
<p>What I do know right now is that somehow I have to deal with this and get on with life.  I have my family to care for, my work to do and, somehow, my own health to take care of (eating is not high on my agenda at the moment&#8230;).</p>
<p>However, at this precise moment, all of that seems totally impossible, but the only place I can say that without worrying anyone close to me is here.</p>
<p>End of rather depressed and exhausted post.  Maybe it was good to write about it all here, but there again, who knows&#8230;?</p>

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		<title>Recession Depression And Suicide</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zania</dc:creator>
		
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Recession Depression And Suicide
What Do You Feel About Someone Who Commits Suicide?
So the US banks have been bailed out and people all over the Internet are discussing what this could mean - for the economy (US and Worldwide) and, of course, for themselves and their families.
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<p><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/recession-depression-and-suicide/">Recession Depression And Suicide</a></p>
<p><strong>What Do You Feel About Someone Who Commits Suicide?</strong></p>
<p>So the US banks have been bailed out and people all over the Internet are discussing what this could mean - for the economy (US and Worldwide) and, of course, for themselves and their families.</p>
<p>And amongst all this chaos and double (quadruple?) talk, more and more people are getting depressed&#8230;Big Time.</p>
<p>Some people are &#8216;bailing out&#8217; altogether, with their lives.</p>
<p>My partner was telling me about a guy who committed suicide by throwing himself in the path of an oncoming train, because the finance business he was responsible for was in ruins.</p>
<p>My partner is not an unkind man, but he had no sympathy for the guy.  As far as he is concerned, the guy should have thought about the consequences of his actions; for his family, his colleagues, and, most of all, for the poor bastard driving the train, who will most likely spend months, if not years, having therapy to help him cope with the undeniable fact that, although there was absolutely nothing he could do to prevent it, the train he was driving had crushed someone to pieces.</p>
<p>My thoughts on this?</p>
<p>Yes, I see where my partner is coming from (and that is honestly not a cliche).  My mum (would you believe?) worked on the trains for some time a few years ago and so I know what the effects of being at the scene of a &#8216;fatal incident&#8217; can be like.</p>
<p>But when someone is suffering from depression, from <em>whatever cause</em>, they are not thinking straight.  Their whole mind is full of darkness.  It is almost impossible to see beyond this to thoughts of family, friends, work and any other matters they may have to deal with.  Because to go down this route takes with it the darkness itself.  The future, as well as the present, seems totally dark. It is immensely scary.</p>
<p>Someone suffering from depression can be termed &#8217;selfish&#8217;, in that they literally can only see the World as it surrounds them.</p>
<p>That is the best way I can explain this.  And for someone who has never suffered from depression, I guess that&#8217;s not really enough&#8230;</p>
<p>All I can say is this.  These are hard times financially.  In all likelehood things will get harder before they get any better.  There will be casualties.</p>
<p>But please do not dismiss anyone as a selfish bastard, simply because they were suffering from depression so badly that they found the only way out was to commit suicide.</p>
<p>What they needed was help, in whatever form it came, but it either wasn&#8217;t there, or they didn&#8217;t know where to ask for it.</p>
<p>There is no blame to be attached here (well&#8230; apart from to the &#8216;free market&#8217;, but that would be a whole other post&#8230;.).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s enough said on this issue (for now at least&#8230;)  But maybe someone will read this and have second thoughts about apportioning blame to someone who was so obviously depressed&#8230;</p>

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	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/08/how-to-cope-when-your-loved-one-is-depressed/" title="How To Cope When Your Loved One Is Depressed (August 13, 2008)">How To Cope When Your Loved One Is Depressed</a> (7)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2009/03/why-depression-can-make-people-disappear-online/" title="Why Depression Can Make People Disappear Online (March 15, 2009)">Why Depression Can Make People Disappear Online</a> (0)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/05/does-blogging-really-help-you-cope-with-depression/" title="Does Blogging Really Help You Cope With Depression? (May 24, 2008)">Does Blogging Really Help You Cope With Depression?</a> (11)</li>
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		<title>Why Communication Problems Occur&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zania</dc:creator>
		
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Why Communication Problems Occur&#8230;
I Find It Difficult To Communicate When I Am Under Pressure
I have made quite a few online friends in the last year or so.  Some work online themselves, or are bloggers like me, others visit forums I go to and others read Fraying Edges, [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/09/why-communication-problems-occur/">Why Communication Problems Occur&#8230;</a></p>
<p><strong>I Find It Difficult To Communicate When I Am Under Pressure</strong></p>
<p>I have made quite a few online friends in the last year or so.  Some work online themselves, or are bloggers like me, others visit forums I go to and others read <strong><a title="Depression Help" href="http://frayingedges.com/">Fraying Edges</a></strong>, or one of my other blogs, and have kept in contact with me as a result.</p>
<p>During that time, I have found most of my online friends to be interesting people, often very different to me and in a few instances very similar.  I am genuinely interested in what they have to say and, if they need help and it&#8217;s in my power to offer help and/advice, then I am only too willing to do so&#8230; most of the time.</p>
<p>But at other times, I just cannot communicate in a friendly manner.  The nature of my life and the way I attack it (and I guess &#8216;attack&#8217; is the correct word&#8230;), means that I tend to suffer stress and burnout a lot.  And at times like these, I am not the nicest person to know. I will be over critical, sarcastic and sometimes downright rude.  To make a comment on your blog, or send you an email at that time, would put a dark cloud over your day, no question.</p>
<p>And I must stress that it will not be anything you have said or done, just the way I am feeling at that point in time.  At those times, I am saving all the kind thoughts and actions I can just about manage to produce for my family, because, if I don&#8217;t do this, they will bear the brunt of my feelings and that would not be fair at all.</p>
<p>Does that make me a &#8216;bad&#8217; person to know?  Well, if you want someone who is always kind to you; who will always respond, no matter how down they are feeling themselves, then I guess it does.  But if you prefer to know someone honest; who gives you a genuine reason for their lack of communication, rather than making a comment or sending you an email filled with &#8216;off the top of my head&#8217; worthless platitudes (because to give my real feelings at that time would be incorrect, hurtful, and serve no good purpose), then you have me.</p>
<p>You may not like me for the way I am, but hopefully you will understand where I am coming from.</p>
<p>You see, over the last two or three weeks, I seem to have been fighting an almost losing battle to continue working online (and I say &#8216;almost&#8217;, because losing is not in my vocabulary when it comes to making a living to help keep my family safe and secure).  I have had hosting problems; ISP failures; scam artists trying their damndest to get the better of me; and sponsors changing their ways of working in the middle of a campaign, throwing everything off balance; to mention just a few &#8216;trials&#8217; I have had to overcome to keep up and running.  In the midst of all this, we have had a massive late summer heatwave which sucked the energy out of most of us and led to water shortages and scrub fires near the village, causing panic, alarm and more upheavals.  And, most daunting of all, I also have more to do to sort out the aftermath of legal matters concerning my Mum&#8217;s death in June, which brings the whole, totally distressing event back with great clarity.</p>
<p>At least the other concerns take my mind off of the real one (the last one), I suppose&#8230;</p>
<p>I must admit I have been very tempted to reach for that (rather out-of-date) bottle of anti-depressants in the hope that starting on them again will help me keep sane.  But I know it won&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s where I stand at the moment and why you may find me a little uncommunicative of late&#8230;</p>
<p>Just trying to keep my head above water (when there is any&#8230;.) and trying not to put too much of a cloud on anyone else&#8217;s day.</p>

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	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2009/03/why-depression-can-make-people-disappear-online/" title="Why Depression Can Make People Disappear Online (March 15, 2009)">Why Depression Can Make People Disappear Online</a> (0)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/09/when-hosting-makes-you-stressed/" title="When Hosting Makes You Stressed! (September 6, 2008)">When Hosting Makes You Stressed!</a> (4)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/05/ways-to-exercise-away-that-depression/" title="Ways to Exercise Away That Depression (May 19, 2008)">Ways to Exercise Away That Depression</a> (0)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-stress-of-making-a-list/" title="The Stress Of Making A List (July 25, 2008)">The Stress Of Making A List</a> (11)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/the-constant-cycle-of-stress-and-depression/" title="The Constant Cycle Of Stress And Depression (October 2, 2008)">The Constant Cycle Of Stress And Depression</a> (5)</li>
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		<title>Internet Stress</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Internet Stress
Well, I had Hosting Stress and now I am having Internet Stress.  In fact, as I write this post, I am not online at all, just using a blog poster and saving it until we are online again&#8230; whenever that will be&#8230;
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<p><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/09/internet-stress/">Internet Stress</a></p>
<p>Well, I had <strong><a title="When Hosting Makes You stressed" href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/09/when-hosting-makes-you-stressed/">Hosting Stress</a></strong> and now I am having Internet Stress.  In fact, as I write this post, I am not online at all, just using a blog poster and saving it until we are online again&#8230; whenever that will be&#8230;</p>
<p>As anyone who has been reading <strong><a title="Depression Help" href="http://frayingedges.com/">Fraying Edges Depression Help</a></strong> for a while knows.  We live in rural Spain.  However, we are not Spanish by birth, but English, and still getting used to the &#8216;intricacies&#8217; of life here after living here for three or so years.</p>
<p>Spanish is not our first language (in fact, in school it was not our second either (that was French, as far as basic GCSE level French went&#8230;), so when things go wrong here, it can get just a little stressful trying to sort them out.</p>
<p>Added to that, we do not have a local family connection to call on to help, as is the custom with people who have lived here since birth.</p>
<p>The only Internet connection available to us here is &#8216;rural ADSL&#8217;.  Until recently, it was just above dial-up speed, but a few weeks ago, we got the &#8216;big boost&#8217; (with a very big advertising campaign to go with it) and now we can actually get download speeds of 250k or over.  Doesn&#8217;t sound much I know to those on fast connections, but to us, both working online, it was like paradise itself.  That is until the phone lines went down&#8230;</p>
<p>Phone lines and internet connections here go down quite a lot, but they are usually put right within a couple of hours or so&#8230; but not this time. The usual stressful mobile phone call to Telefonica (translating rapid-fire Spanish is no joke) produced a mended telephone connection the next day&#8230; but no Internet.  So we phoned again, only to be told that all was fine their end&#8230; so it must be something local which required an engineer&#8230;</p>
<p>The Internet here is not considered a major thing.  The locals use it, but no one apart from us uses it for work, so everyone is just happy that the telephone lines have been reconnected and think it&#8217;s just a &#8217;strange English thing&#8217; that we would need the Internet so much.</p>
<p>As I sit typing this, I am waiting for the engineer to call.  We have been told 48 hours at the most, but experience has shown us that 48 hours in Spain can be stretched a little further than that&#8230;  And when he calls he will talk in Spanish (after all, it <em>is</em> his language) and tell us how to go about fixing &#8216;el problema&#8217;.  This will involve more rapid fire Spanish, our very slow and halting Spanish and lots of sign language and eventually, fingers tightly crossed, &#8216;el problema&#8217; may just be fixed&#8230;</p>
<p>In the meantime, I have websites to make, link building to do, sponsor links to update, and a million other things which cannot be done without an Internet connection.  In fact, I have a list a mile long of things which had to be done &#8216;yesterday&#8217;.</p>
<p>So I am feeling just a little stressed right now!</p>
<p>Stress-filled post over.  Let&#8217;s hope that normal service will be resumed&#8230;eventually&#8230;</p>

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	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/09/when-hosting-makes-you-stressed/" title="When Hosting Makes You Stressed! (September 6, 2008)">When Hosting Makes You Stressed!</a> (4)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/07/the-stress-of-making-a-list/" title="The Stress Of Making A List (July 25, 2008)">The Stress Of Making A List</a> (11)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/10/the-constant-cycle-of-stress-and-depression/" title="The Constant Cycle Of Stress And Depression (October 2, 2008)">The Constant Cycle Of Stress And Depression</a> (5)</li>
	<li><a href="http://frayingedges.com/2008/06/over-achieving-stress-and-exhaustion/" title="Over Achieving, Stress and Exhaustion (June 14, 2008)">Over Achieving, Stress and Exhaustion</a> (1)</li>
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